The exact wording of the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act
Posted: December 7, 2011 | Author: michaelshatz | Filed under: Afghanistan, Occupy Wall Street, Politics, President Obama, War | Tags: Indefinite Detention US citizens, National Defense Authorization Act, NDAA Full Text, NDAA Last minute amendment, NDAA pdf |8 Comments »The lie is in the wording. They say that the “requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”
The key word here is “requirement”. If it is a foreign national, they are required to detain them in this manner. If it is an American citizen, they simply retain the option, without being required.
The provision begins on page 359 of the bill, linked below. This version of the bill was slightly amended to avoid veto by President Obama and was passed by a Senate vote of 93-7. The amendment replaced the term “require” with “have to”. So they are saying the exact same thing. The military does not have to indefinitely detain citizens. But they retain the power to do so.
Here is the full text of the bill prior to the seemingly pointless amendment. If anyone has the amended version, please post a link to it in the comment thread. While I suggest reading the entire bill, as I said, the provision begins on page 359.
The National Defense Authorization Act (full text pdf)
[...] As I understand it, this section gives the US government the power to permanently detain, without charges, lawyers, evidence or trials, just about ANYONE that is suspected of committing a belligerent act. Yes, it does include U.S. citizens; Yes, even after the amendment, and here is why. [...]
indefinite detention or Can easyly be translated to Detention until death or Detain and murder, Funny just about the same time FEMA prison camps buildt everywhere. This law means they can make anyone dissapeare forever, leagally, a polititial opponent for one , theres your Dictatorship. How can you dissagree with any BAD thing the government does. Dissagree and ya sound like a threat, so off to the killing fields.. Well that law also pretty much makes freedom of speach, DEADLY. What do I know about it is it shreads the Constitution and our form of government and if The new Dictator Obama will let me Im on the next boat out of here.
[...] Según lo comprendo, esta sección le da al gobierno EstadoUnidense el poder para detener o encarcelar, por un periodo indefinido, sin la necesidad de levantar cargos, presentar evidencia, ni abogados o juicios, a CUALQUIER PERSONA sobre suelo EstadoUnidense. Incluyendo a sus propios ciudadanos, aquí está la explicación. [...]
Alright, here’s another version of the Bill! http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf Section 1031 now starts at page 426
Section 1032(b) excludes US Citizens
[...] il semble bien que oui, finalement : The lie is in the wording. They say that the “requirement to detain a person in [...]
Don’t really see the communist Nazi angle on this. All it says is that the military can detain enemy combatants IAW rule of war, and the US Constitution
Not sure where all the Communist Nazi is. All I see is that this gives the Military authorization to detain enemy combatants in accordance with the Rule of War, and the U.S. Constitution. It could even prevent the U.S. from being sued, or forced to release known terrorists from facilities such as GITMO. Rules of War, U.S. Constitution…..I invite everyone to read them both